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Obama’s Real Bill Ayers Problem
City Journal, by Sol Stern
Original
Article
Posted
By:Fosterdad,
4/23/2008 11:18:02 PM
Barack
Obama complains that he’s been unfairly attacked for a casual
political and social relationship with his neighbor, former
Weatherman Bill Ayers. Obama has a point. In the ultraliberal Hyde
Park community where the presidential candidate first earned his
political spurs, Ayers is widely regarded as a member in good
standing of the city’s civic establishment, not an unrepentant
domestic terrorist.
Comments:
Turns out Ayres is even more dangerous as a professor than he was as
a terrorist.
Reply 1 - Posted by: ForNow,
4/23/2008 11:33:14 PM
Unrepentant and proud terrorist Ayers'
influence on the USA's school children continues to grow. Ayers is
definitely slicker than Ward Churchill but just as hate-driven and
just as, mmm, America-phobic.
Reply
2 - Posted by: James
Beam, 4/23/2008 11:34:26 PM
Powerline
on Thursday posted audio recordings of
Ayers and another wacko spouting their vile hate as late as last
year. Just incredible.
Reply
3 - Posted by: Heartland,
4/23/2008 11:39:10 PM
Looks like smelly, aging, hippies are
coming home to roost, right Reverend Jeramiah? This Operation Chaos
stuff is too much fun. Obama has turned from making people faint to
making them puke with one speech in San Fran. LOL
Neither Hillary nor Obama can win this election. Obama is a good
example of what the DEMS have become and they can't hide it anymore.
Who wants to bet that Ayers and Dohrn are really Millionayers.....
Reply 4 -
Posted by: Newtsche,
4/23/2008 11:55:50 PM
"Social
Justice Division"
That just sounds scary.
Many have long known of Ayers' hard left work in our education system.
It seems like a good time to hold his feet to the fire, make him
justify what he is doing.
Reply 5 - Posted by: rlwo,
4/24/2008 12:01:38 AM
The
most dangerous man (and wife) to run for president ever.
Reply 6 - Posted by: lvpokergal,
4/24/2008 12:12:25 AM
I agree #5. He is a very liberal Senator,
possibly a true Marxist, and his wife is in a deep as he. If he is the
RAT nomineee, BHO will be the most dangerous person to run on a
national ticket perhaps ever. Let's hope the American people are smart
enough to realize this.
Reply 7 - Posted by: The
Advocate, 4/24/2008 12:16:57 AM
Communists always want to control the
education of the young- I doubt Obama mispoke when he identified Ayers
as an English teacher - they tend to be eccentric- as an Education
Professor - he really is truly more dangerous. As Mount Holyoke
English grad- I could not get a teaching certificate unless I took
education courses - mind numbing indoctrination. Teachers unions are
more interested in education courses than in being educated in the
subject matter- thus generations of poor and black children are
condemned to Public schools with inferior teachers but big budgets as
in DC and Phila - while black politicians send their children to
private schools that do not require education credits - but do require
knowledge of the subject matter.
Reply 8 - Posted by: Margie,
4/24/2008 12:18:04 AM
Michelle Malkin has an article about the
Obamas and the Ayers with pictures from their younger and even more
radical days. Check out Michelle and tell me she doesn't look scary.
Reply 9 - Posted by: greggojo,
4/24/2008 12:18:49 AM
This is really scary. The organization of
which Ayers is now vice-president openly promotes radical
anti-capitalistic and anti-Democratic ideas in our nations teacher
colleges and courses.
Let's see, the liberals have infiltrated our journalism schools, our
court system and our schools. Leftist ideas were not good enough to be
presented openly and honestly for public consideration, so they have
been promoted subversively.
While the rest of us were working for a living these leftists were
using our tax dollars and working the system they claim to despise in
their efforts to destroy America.
Reply 10 - Posted by: Ban
Draoi1, 4/24/2008 12:54:16 AM
So Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers want
revolution, eh?
Fine.
Let it begin with both of them strung up a la Mussolini -- nice neat
round holes in the middle of their foreheads and as a finishing touch,
a meat fork stuck in her stomach with a note attached saying "we
have not forgotten".
Reply 11 - Posted by: JimK1,
4/24/2008 1:12:55 AM
The terrorists have grown up. Now, more
deadly than ever. #10, that is decidedly un-Christian - effective, but
..., well never mind.
Reply 12 - Posted by: PageTurner,
4/24/2008 1:24:33 AM
Was there anybody out there who was too
radical-left for Obama? Anybody at all?
Reply 13 - Posted by: Photoonist,
4/24/2008 1:45:33 AM
Looking for reasons as to why Chicago is
always becoming an increasingly dangerous and corrupt place? Here's
one. By allowing such communist Marxist anti-American scum such
positions of influence you are aiding and abetting the attack upon the
values and lawful behavior that makes for a civilized democratic
society. And Obama and the Dem machine of Chicago want to unleash that
upon the whole nation.
Reply 14 - Posted by: Philowl,
4/24/2008 2:17:33 AM
In a way, Obama is right. Had those radicals
seen true justice for their crimes that man would not be a professor
let alone BO's neighbor and, therefore, he wouldn't have been around
for BO to have ever met him.
Reply 15 - Posted by: Ad
Lucem, 4/24/2008 2:34:46 AM
What Hillary's FALN pardon problem? Or the
two Weather Underground babes Bill pardoned?This is a democrat
problem! They favor enemies of the USA for political advantage. So
let's keep focused on the problem dems have in the plural until they
figure out which one of these inocmpetents they'[re going to nominate!
Reply 16 - Posted by: Meme,
4/24/2008 2:35:44 AM
Marxists all..until we get liberal communists
politics out of the class room we will continue with a lack of real
learning, the breakdown of families, and an enormous number of amoral
children with no desire to be decent human beings
Reply 17 - Posted by: A
Balrog of Morgoth, 4/24/2008 4:14:47 AM
Finally, we have found a use for Mrs. Bill
Clinton.
Reply 18 - Posted by: gam,
4/24/2008 6:59:20 AM
One gets the impression that the U of Chicago
is to be feared. I wonder how many of Obama's cabinet will come from
its ranks? His kids go to private school there.
Reply 19 - Posted by: Poliskeptic,
4/24/2008 6:59:32 AM
Obama’s statement in the last debate about
increasing the capital gains tax for fairness even if it lowered tax
revenues is a sure fire indication he agrees with Ayers’ assault on
capitalism. As president, he would do everything he could, in the name
of fairness, to squash entrepreneurial spirit, the very thing that
made our country the best in the world. Oh how I wish we could get
back to the days when ambition and hard work were taught as admirable
rather than fairness.
Reply 20 - Posted by: Intentional,
4/24/2008 7:00:35 AM
Enough of this ancient trivia already. What
America really wants to know is does Obama wear boxers or briefs? Has
anyone in the MSM asked him that yet? Which Idol does he prefer?
What's his favorite Oprah book? How does he feel about hope and
change? These are the things America wants to know.
Reply 21 - Posted by: sixtiesdude,
4/24/2008 7:22:33 AM
When I was growing up in the fifties the
common perception was that we would do things our parents only dreamed
about. Go to college. Get a high-paying job. Buy a house. Send kids to
good schools. We did that and a whole lot more. Then let the liberals
and unionistas hijack it all and dumb-down our education to the point
that, even for the kids who hang around to get one, a high school
diploma barely qualifies you to ask total strangers if they want fries
with that.
You reap what you sow. And we have sown a mighty waste of human
potential. That's what this election is about for me.
Reply 22 - Posted by: Maybeth,
4/24/2008 7:35:38 AM
*Ayers listed among his scholarly books
`Fugitive Days,` an unapologetic memoir about his ten years in the
Weather Underground. The book includes dramatic accounts of how he
bombed the Pentagon and other public buildings.*
Reply 23
- Posted by: clipped
wings, 4/24/2008 7:45:45 AM
I like it, #10. As one who came back from
Vietnam to jeers at the Oakland airport (no, they didn't spit on my
uniform, so they may be still alive), the sight of Ayers and Dohrn
turns my stomach.
They and Ward Churchill and hundreds of others should be stripped of
their U.S. citizenship and dropped into Zimbabwe--naked.
Reply 24 - Posted by: romanesq,
4/24/2008 8:19:13 AM
What #19 said.
And a woman recounted her unique date rape relationship with Ayers. He
locked her in his room and demanded she have sex with his African
American roomate and then his brother.
Nobly Ayers' brother could not find it in himself to go through with
it. The poor woman suffered for years from the event.
And Mr. Ayers was standing at the door telling her she wasn't getting
out until she did what he demanded.
Nice guy.
Reply 25 - Posted by: guitarzan,
4/24/2008 8:23:21 AM
We will long have to suffer the 60s until the
generation is dead. Me included. I don't believe in the forgive and
forget doctrine or time heals. Ayers' brain still works like it did in
the Weather Underground. He was an Urban Guerilla which was what they
called themselves now he's an Urban Terrorist Guerilla and just as
dangerous if not more. Obama can't be that stupid to not distance
himself or see this guy for what he is. Barry and Michelle both know
what they are doing and are very dangerous for America.
Reply 26 - Posted by: ucffan,
4/24/2008 8:30:25 AM
We need to make sure this info about him
being involved in K-12 schools gets into the MSM.
Reply 27 - Posted by: Barbarian
Heretic, 4/24/2008 8:31:32 AM
Protcting the Free Speech of monsters among
us is among the most difficult tasks for patriots.
Whenever I consider my personal feelings toward a Churchill, Ayers,
Klan, etc, I marvel at how incredibly strong the Founders were...
Reply 28 - Posted by: distorted,
4/24/2008 8:41:08 AM
Obama's mentor was a publicly known member of
the Communist party, Frank Marshall Davis.
"Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in
time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with
Davis, listening to his 'poetry' and getting advice on his career
path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him
repeatedly as just 'Frank.'"
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
Reply 29 - Posted by: ocjim,
4/24/2008 8:47:38 AM
There are TWO entirely different universities
with similar names in Chicago:
--- University of Chicago, a private university founded by John D.
Rockefeller in 1892. First nuclear chain reaction conducted there by
Enrico Fermi. Milton Friedman famously taught there.
--- University of Illinois at Chicago, a state school where William
Ayers is Distinguished Professor of Education.
Congratulations, Illinois Taxpayers! Your tax dollars at work to
forgive and reward impudent, unrepentant terrorist bombers!!!
Reply 30 - Posted by: chiller,
4/24/2008 9:11:07 AM
RE 26:"We need to make sure this info
about him being involved in K-12 schools gets into the MSM. "
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There is a silver lining here. We've often lamented about the
education system and Ayers could be our entre' into the issue during
this presidential campaign. Either Hillary, or McCain, or Rush, or us
will shine some light on these roaches.
Reply 31 - Posted by: Butch59,
4/24/2008 9:21:48 AM
Sadly, I fear that with the likes of Bill
Ayers and others of his ilk, this great nation is headin down the path
toward another civil war. This time it will be against those who
demand socialism and those who want to live in freedom. And it occurs
to me that at any given time in modern America, I would guess that
somewhere between 30 and 40 percent of the population would be happy
under socialism. Don't have to make any tough decisions. The
government is going to take care of all there wants and needs.
Riiiiight
The one thing that gives me comfort is the cold fact of who beleives
in the 2nd Amendment. And who owns the majority of guns in this
country? And do you really think that, if it came to that, that the
men and women of our armed forces would fight against it's own
citizens?
Reply 32 - Posted by: federale,
4/24/2008 9:22:06 AM
The left has taken over the universities and
with the aid of the NEA and the Dimwit party has a hammer lock on
K-12. David Horowitz has been fighting these Stalinists with some
success but where is the Republican party?
Reply 33 - Posted by: ivehadit,
4/24/2008 9:36:02 AM
We cannot become strident on the right. 40%
of the country is not with us. It is much better to be able to have a
little appeal for them so that we may influence vs. being completely
left out of the debate and giving the hard Left the power to
influence.
Imho, McCain is the right man at the right time, warts and all.
And, imho, we must get into the universities and change what is going
on ala Horowitz. And I despise the NEA.
Reply 34 - Posted by: Bazi,
4/24/2008 9:39:06 AM
We recently saw a traveling exhibit from the
Washington D.C. International Spy Museum called, ''The
Enemy Within: Terror in America -- 1776 to Today''
Guess who's featured as domestic terrorists? The Weather Underground:
Bill Ayers and his wife. You can watch them on a continuous video
loop. Should I be surprised that the MSM hasn't mentioned this?
http://www.spymuseum.org/about/exhibits_enemy.php
In 2005 CNN calls Dohrn the face of terrorism.
http://www.spymuseum.org/about/exhibits_enemy.php
Reply 35
- Posted by: T-Bubba,
4/24/2008 10:04:05 AM
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton is smart enough
NOT to have a separatist, supremacist anti-American on her ticket,
once she swipes the Weasel Democrat nomination from Barack Hussein
Obama Jr. Riots be damned, she will not pick a sure loser after going
to all this toil and trouble to swipe the nomination.
Am I alone in self-delusion, or is it becoming more clear by the day
that Hildebeest will NOT be denied the nomination?
Reply 36 - Posted by: little
guy, 4/24/2008 10:19:06 AM
Almost none of this stuff would be coming to
light if either PIAPS or Obammy had been crowned queen/king after
Super Tuesday simply because the LSM would have rallied around the
winner. By having the two of them rough each other up, something
McVain appears afraid to do, it can only help us all in the long run.
PIAPS will do everything she can to steal the prize right from under
BO Plenty's big ears. I still say she takes it and will pay dearly for
doing so. Could cost her the Senate when Harlem stays home next time
around.
Reply 37 - Posted by: BeatleJeff,
4/24/2008 10:22:06 AM
This screams volumes about Little Lord
Fauntbarak's extremely poor judgement. When you continually lay down
in the sty with pigs, you end up smelling like a pig and eventually
end up behaving like a pig. If the Wrights and the Ayers of the the
world are who he chooses to associate with, we can be reasonably sure
that these are the types of people he would appoint to his cabinet.
Jeremiah Wright as Secretery of HUD? No thanks.
Reply 38 - Posted by: woodlander,
4/24/2008 10:39:24 AM
The audiotapes of Ayers and Dohrn, the
Weathermen friends of Obama, need to be heard much more widely. In
some ways, they are as devastating and revealing as the Rev. Wright
tapes. These are the far-out views held by many in my generation (late
sixties, early seventies collegians). Most of us have through
experience and education outgrown and discarded these crazy, radical
ideas. Especially after 9/11. They no longer make sense. Ayers and
Dohrn are, quite simply, delusional. We cannot have a president who
has roots in or identifies with this delusional framework. Havoc will
result.
Reply 39 - Posted by: Namma,
4/24/2008 10:55:15 AM
Rev.Wright,Ayers,Dohrn, Obama...Birds of the
same feather-flock together.
Reply 40 - Posted by: Fosterdad,
4/24/2008 11:15:45 AM
Wow. Something I posted is listed as a Must
Read. That's only the second time for me. And to think I almost didn't
post it. BTW, it's so nice to see how Illinoisans' tax dollars are
being spent. I suggested to the paper here in Springfield that they
write a story about Ayres. I'm not holding my breath. The local paper
is totally in Obambi's back pocket.
Reply 41 - Posted by: AirForceCane,
4/24/2008 11:27:00 AM
This is the first election in my lifetime
where the power completely rests with US!!
If WE get out the truth about Obama, he will not win. If WE sit on the
sidelines, he will destroy the country we grew up in.
What are YOU going to do about it?!!
Reply 42 - Posted by: jinx,
4/24/2008 11:29:25 AM
EIther Barry Hussain Obama was DUPED by
William Ayers or it didn't bother him. It bothers me. A lot! They want
to know what is wrong with our educational system. The Communist Party
said that it was their goal to undermine our government quietly. They
are doing it through our educational system. Ward Churchill and Bill
Ayers have been exposed. How many more are out there?
Reply 43 - Posted by: rlwo,
4/24/2008 11:30:48 AM
Also, notice the picture of Obama on Michelle
Malkin's site. He is in his typical snob messiah pose way back then.
Reply 44 - Posted by: wrw90,
4/24/2008 11:50:00 AM
The issue isn't Ayers record. We know what he
is.
The issue is the media's failure to probe Barack Hussein Obama's
relation to Ayers, and the reason that an avowed Marxist would give
BHO his support.
Reply 45 - Posted by: katie
corrupt, 4/24/2008 11:51:08 AM
Here is an interesting fact I learned from
Mark Levin: If someone asked you what percentage of Americans
supported the American Revolution, wouldn't you answer that it had to
be the majority? Well, it wasn't. It split 30-30-30. 30% supported the
revolution, 30% supported the British and 30% were uncommitted. So if
you are worried that so many people support socialism (in theory, not
ever having lived it) remember we won the American Revolution with God
and only 30% support.
Reply 46 - Posted by: Coach1,
4/24/2008 11:54:17 AM
#39, Add to your list Frank Marshall Davis,
whose personal influence on Obama's youth has not yet been reported.
Reply 47 - Posted by: Sinatra4,
4/24/2008 11:57:37 AM
#'s 16 and 32 have it right. Our education
system is at the heart of most of the problems we are now
experiencing. They call it education - I call it indoctrination. Our
universities have been turning out commies since at least 1960. Now
the "chickens have come home ...' It's a problem that will not go
away or be easily fixed. The damage has been done...
Reply 48
- Posted by: spentpenny,
4/24/2008 12:02:08 PM
This is not about spreading the word or
'educating' the public or any other kind of public relations effort.
The people who posted statistics above are probably correct except I
suspect the percentage of the public who would be comfortable under
socialism is much higher than the 40% mentioned.
Truly, I suspect that if you ran a vote between socialism and
capitalism, socialism would win. The Democrats have been successful in
creating a permanent dependent under class and frankly we have been
thrashing words among other like-minded people while it happened.
#31 has it right although it may be delayed by this election and maybe
the next, but it is coming. I just hope to be around to help.
Reply 49 - Posted by: olddemocrat,
4/24/2008 12:09:08 PM
And please notice that the only way, and I
mean the only way, Ayers and Churchill and their ilk can make a living
is by sucking the blood out of taxpayers - their looney ideas would
not buy them lunch money in the real world. And the only way they can
continue to keep a job is "tenure". Abolish tenure; and
while we're at it, make every judge (including federal) run for
re-election - I mean a real election - not just an up or down vote on
the incumbent.. And yes, by federal, I do mean the Supreme Court, too.
Reply 50 - Posted by: billw.,
4/24/2008 12:09:41 PM
Are there no adults in the Dem party? What
else would account for the total lack of judgement on display in these
candidates and members of Congress?
Reply 51 - Posted by: WIBadger,
4/24/2008 12:11:29 PM
Spot on #4. Whenever anyone uses a phrase
like ''social justice'', I instantly tune them out because its obvious
where they are coming from.
If Ayers weren't so dangerous, he'd be just another liberal girley-man.
Come to think of it, he IS a liberal girley-man. Just one with a
violent past.
Reply 52 - Posted by: greggojo,
4/24/2008 12:27:45 PM
You know, this is all coming together, I mean
the systematic undermining of all of the major structures that support
a nation.This is what the leftists all over the country have been up
to since the 60's and probably before. They think they know better
than the founders. They think the Constitution is faulty.
The fact that their ideas have totally failed wherever they've been
applied, (look at the utter mess of Chicago's inner cities, how many
school aged young people were murdered this past weekend? weekend!)
means nothing to the left. They are uneducable. They just continue on
with their rhetoric and their agenda.
Pity Ms. Pelosi didn't tie the word failure with Socialism like she so
successfully tied it to President Bush (with the everwilling MSM doing
their best to aide her cause of course).
Reply 53 - Posted by: garyhope,
4/24/2008 1:03:14 PM
#52 is right and perhaps what this country
and this campaign are going through is hopefully the beginning of the
end for the left in this country. Perhaps many people in this country
will begin to realize the extent of the perfidious influence
and destructiveness of the left and what the so called Democratic
party has become now that both Obama and Hillary are being exposed for
what they really are.
I'm beginning to think that the Obama, Wright, Ayers, and the left is
more dangerous than Islamofascism. They are right here, right now,
working behind the curtains to destroy America, freedom and Western
civilization. Both the left and Islam want us all dead. Push is going
to come to shove.
Reply 54 - Posted by: skofla,
4/24/2008 1:06:57 PM
I'm guessing a goodly number of those who
support socialism don't own any evil guns. So when a revolution comes,
what are they going to do? Sing Kumbaya off-key until the gun-toting
conservatives are driven crazy enough to kill themselves? Perhaps the
metrosexuals will run me over with their Priuses.
Reply 55
- Posted by: steveW,
4/24/2008 1:40:50 PM
How can you tell an honest Democrat?
They're the ones who admit their admiration for the Weather
Underground.
Reply 56 - Posted by: Sinatra4,
4/24/2008 2:05:55 PM
# 48 is correct....'Seems like the number
I've heard of those who rely on gov't hand outs is more like 60% - a
real tribute to the laky, useless, stupid people who now call America
home. I agree, socialism would win the election hands down...people
want to be taken care of and not have to think, or do, for
themselves...
Reply 57 - Posted by: Ida
Lil, 4/24/2008 2:37:58 PM
My husband agrees with #35. He has been ill
and out of this loop thus encountering the Bammie question first time
on Tuesday night.He never thought he would say such a thing.
This all makes me double glad the State of Utah is providing for and
encouraging my 15 year old grandaughter to take College classes in
high school.Any student
with a 3.8 and up GPA can declare before starting sophmore classes
they are pursuing
a college associate degree then take a college entrance exam offered
by Utah Universities.Upon passing they begin courses
in 10th grade at home in high school.
She finishes her high school credits in May and has earned 16 college
credits too. The next two years are all college classes.
All parents can supervise what their kids are exposed to while
teaching them the differences and morality.
Reply 58 - Posted by: jkendal,
4/24/2008 4:18:02 PM
I couldn't have said it better than #9.
Reply 59 - Posted by: MsFalconersCabanaBoy,
4/24/2008 4:23:31 PM
Be sure to check out this
round-up at Weekly
Standard. Stuff just keeps coming out. It's amazing to think some
Republicans were, and
still are, actively considering voting for this guy!
Reply 60 - Posted by: Fiesta
del Sol, 4/24/2008 6:07:26 PM
Folks, if you have children of school age,
please take them out of the public schools! Send them to private
school, homeschool them, whatever it takes. Don't let your little ones
learn that America is the enemy, white males are the reason this
country is racist etc. Don't let the leftists indoctrinate your
precious cargo.
Reply 61 - Posted by: vwlarry,
4/24/2008 6:19:08 PM
Perhaps I've missed it somehow, but doesn't
it seem odd that O'bama's life story, say, from the seventies up until
about oh, say LAST YEAR has been completely and totally concealed from
the public's view?
When they say we know little about this man, they sure ain't kidding!
We know NUTHIN.
Reply 62 - Posted by: FOXII,
4/24/2008 6:54:05 PM
I truly believe the leftists were extremely
smart when they took on the long-term plan to "indoctrinate"
through the education system. When are the conservatives going to put
their "underground" plan to take education back from these
communists into effect?? Conservatives needs a radical movement!! I am
sorry to break it to everyone, but sometimes you need to fight fire
with fire. Why shouldn't we fight to win the most important war our
country has ever faced...the war to keep our country the way our
founders intended for it to be? We need to fight the socialist,
Marxist, fascists where ever they raise their grimy heads.
A civil war between capitalists and socialists? That would be very
fun. For starters, most liberal pacifists are easy to fight ;-))
Oh, and #31, the brave men and women of our armed forces would
definitely fight on the side of right. Ayers is every much as
dangerous to the safety of our nation than a member of the Taliban.
Another reason I love the freedom of speech…you often tend to find
out where one stands ;-)
Reply 63
- Posted by: slickwillie2001,
4/24/2008 7:13:55 PM
Why haven't Ayers and the other terrorists
been sued by the victims' families? Looks like a no-brainer, given the
lower standard of evidence in civil court, and because you sue them as
a group you remove dickering over who exactly lit the fuse.
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