smart un's, connect to god's SMARTS, have new idea.  ole dummy maybe not smart 'nough 'splain:  not "refreeze" water, over/over/over, etc..  runz water through frozen ICE - keep temp down, always - have'n coils, or sumthink, and send on way to fan coil units in residences, etc; via insulated pipes - recycleS it too (cooled downed, not colderest agua back for colderest treatment for summer type HEAT dayz).  [ save dollyers, not have to refreeze, every day, ok?  :-) ]

really smart uns keep spares, 'circulate'n' pumps, on hand, hook 'up' AGAIN, 'fore thaws.  :-)

keeps tenants, HAPPY, comfortable.  :-)


NYC buildings use ice to keep cool

By Colleen Long, Associated Press Writer
today's date 1.6.08: Posted 166d ago

NEW YORK — As the summer swelters on, skyscrapers and apartments around the city will crank up air conditioners and push the city's power grid to the limit -- but some have found a cool alternative.

Some office towers and buildings are keeping their AC use to a minimum by using an energy-saving system that relies on blocks of ice to pump chilly air.

"If you take the time to look, you can find innovative ways to be energy efficient, be environmental and sustainable," said William Beck, the head of critical engineering systems for Credit Suisse.

The systems save companies money and reduce strain on the electrical grid in New York, where the city consumes huge amounts of power on hot summer days.

Ice cooling also cuts down on pollution. A system in Credit Suisse's offices at the historic Metropolitan Life tower in Manhattan is equal to taking 223 cars off the streets or planting 1.9 million acres of trees to absorb carbon dioxide from electrical use for a year, according to the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority. 

Such a reduction in pollution is valuable in a city where the majority of emissions come from the operation of buildings. Officials said there are at least 3,000 ice-cooling systems worldwide.

Because electricity is needed to make the ice, water is frozen in large silver tanks at night when power demands are low. The cool air emanating from the ice blocks is then piped through the building. At night the water is frozen again and the cycle repeated.

The idea of using ice to cool rooms is a throwback to the eras before Willis Carrier devised the first air-conditioner. An early method of cooling air in India involved hanging wet grass mats over windows. In the 1800s, a physician in Florida blew air over buckets of ice to cool hospital rooms.

Today, ice storage can be used as the sole cooling system, or it can be combined with traditional systems to help ease the power demands during peak hours.

At Credit Suisse, for example, the company must cool 1.9 million square feet of office space at the historic Met Life tower.

In the basement, three main cooling rooms house chilling machines and 64 tanks that hold 800 gallons of water each. Credit Suisse has a traditional air conditioning system, but engineers use the energy-saving system first.

Construction on the system took about four months, and company engineers say it is extremely efficient.

"When you make something mechanical, it can break, but a big block of ice ... isn't going to do anything but melt," said Todd Coulard of Trane Energy Services, which built the Credit Suisse system.

Trane, the air conditioning arm of American Standard, also developed a system for Morgan Stanley's Westchester County offices and just completed a new system for its offices on Fifth Avenue. A new Goldman Sachs headquarters will also have ice cooling.

Credit Suisse is considering installing the systems in offices around the globe, but nothing has been decided yet. Coulard, an expert in energy efficiency, was hired by the company four years ago to develop the energy services department.

"The idea of not only saving money for large companies, but doing something that benefits the environment, is win-win," he said. "It's doing the right thing."

Ice storage at Credit Suisse lowers the facility's peak energy use by 900 kilowatts, and reduces overall electric usage by 2.15 million kilowatt-hours annually -- enough to power about 200 homes, officials said.

At the Morgan Stanley facility in Westchester County, the system reduces peak energy use by 740 kilowatts and overall electricity usage by 900,000 kilowatt hours annually.

Both companies received incentives from the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority under a program designed to improve the power grid and help businesses reduce operating costs.

The technology is not for every office space. There has to be room to install the large tanks -- and costs are considerable. Credit Suisse spent more than $3 million to renovate its cooling system and Morgan Stanley's costs were comparable, meaning the technology is best suited to large companies.

"This is for companies that want to go green, but there (need) to be other benefits, returns on investments," Coulard said. "It works for larger companies because their cooling costs are so considerable."

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(7-26-07) in the secret of secrets section.


noahhite scribe's notes:

this certainly needs to be implemented in all buildings, where possible and feasible.

at the hometown site, the shelter, retirement, and round-up facilities seem to be practical, on the surface, with modifications to the designs.  would like to include the faith center, if possible.  maybe a "roof area" room needs to be added, over the smaller meeting rooms, in the center of the building, with a stairwell worked into the design.  don't think that the temple area, with it's probable limited use, would be a real savings, considering the anticipated huge up front costs.

on the campus, additional buildings should include the founder's three story plus attic, the two high rise residential buildings, and the fourteen story office building.  probably, more basement space, or a partial basement needs to be added, where none is scheduled, at the moment.

depending on what the overall design ends up as being, would like to see if this concept could be included in the hotel too.

in thinking about the typical steam generating plant, on university campuses, maybe we need to consider that, but reversing it for cooling, with chilled water insulated pipes to all of the facilities, on all of the regional and satellite sites too.  really have high hopes for "massive" amounts of solar panels, on all sites, with dual insulated hot water pipes to all of the residential units; for the heating coil - which will be a insulated circulating line, and for potable hot water also.

maybe space can be found, behind (north) the anticipated fifty by one hundred and twenty foot motor coach garage for a "chilling room," located in the very odd shaped space, at the center of the city block, on the twenty plus acre site, that we are hopeful of purchasing.

and appropriately installed to the coil's air handler, in each space, will be the ultimate in the newest technology relative to the equivalent of "electronic air filters;" primarily to collect tar from tobacco smoke, for ALL SPACES WITH HEAT and/or AIR CONDITIONING.

sure do hope that no body thinks that i am a watermelon; red on the inside (communist) and green on the outside (environmentalist).  i just think that monthly utilities cost too much, and since we will be picking up the tab, we need to get out in front of those monthly expenditures.

can't wait to meet with the telephone people, about phone and internet service. :-)  and don't believe that it will be the new bell south; which is now in the a. t. and t. fold.

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